In comments recorded at a Focus on the Family chapel, Jay Carty states that nice people really do go to hell because of sin. He shares from Scripture and example, that there is nothing more valuable than a soul. To show that people generally value lives more than souls, he gives an illustration of the effort we would make to save a woman trapped in a car which is about to catch on fire. Jay says actions reveal true beliefs and most people would exert more effort to save a life than a soul. If we could transfer that passion for lives into passion for souls, we would have a new dimension of purpose for our lives.